Kan detta stämma?

[abethebabe]

trådlyft

 

[TM]

2036398 Men jävla idioter. Hur svårt ska det vara att identifiera en scam egentligen? Är ni precis hur dumma som helst?

Så här går det till:....[klipp]

lägg upp som sticky tack!

 

[sgtpepper]

2461537 lägg upp som sticky tack!

Ja, gör gärna det. Om jag får säga det själv så var mitt inlägg en klart brinnande fackla av intelligens i ett stort mörker av idioti .

På internet finns det folk som baserar sitt levebröd på tesen "varje minut föds en idiot". Tänk på det gott folk .

 

[Rig]

Scams

2036489 Men i detta läget så handlade det ju inte om att betala en krona i förväg om jag förstod den inlagda texten rätt. Låt säga att jag beställer en hoj, han får adress. Om han då inte tar betalt för varken hoj eller frakt i förväg, var finns då blåsningen? Ok, jag kanske inte får en hoj men jag har ju ändå inget betalat.

Problemet är att han kommer inte skicka dig ngn hoj utan att du betalar. Även om han inte vill ha pengarna "själv" utan som deposit hos ngt "shipping-company" som enl. köparen håller pengarna tills du "godkänt" hojen. Problemet är att det kontot går direkt till hans bank, och i samma stund du överfört pengarna är dom borta.

Bilder är inte heller någon garanti för äkthet, i ett av mina mail bad jag om bilder och fick 10(!) st tillbaka, men det var en phet scamning det oxå.

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SCAM? Är det rätta namnet på denna typ av bedrägeri alla hänvisar till?

Det kan ju faktiskt finnas ärliga personer i annat land som kan gå med på att skicka hojen, var går gränsen mellan en seriös sådan och en SCAMare?

Jag hade uppe en liknande tråd för ett tag sen.

http://sporthoj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133736

- Och ja, SCAM är rätta namnet hur gärna man än vill tro ngt annat.

Jag har oxå mailat ett gäng olika annonsörer, en var t.o.m. "rimligt" prissatt men alla har hittills lämnat i princip identiska svar, och ingen av de jag mailat med (5-6st) har någonsin velat annat än att skicka hojjen. Visst att det kanske kan finnas någon normal tysk som efter oändligt mkt tjatande kan gå med på att skicka hojen, men att 100% av annonsörerna ser detta som enda metoden kanske kan göra att varningsklockorna ringer lite högre?

Jag bifogar ett gäng av de svar jag fått så kan du jämföra;

Hello
We will use a online service and i will explain you the steps of the transaction.
You can test the bike for 5 days ( i think is enough time to inspect and to decide if is a good bike) until i will take the money.

I want to do this deal in a safe way for the both of us. The safest way will be for this deal to be handle by an online service company like i have told you. This system provides protection for both buyer and seller. This is the safest and easiest way to do business. Let me explain how the online service system works.

1) The buyer and seller reach an agreement, and you must to register to www.Online-Comercio.com (i will place the transaction and after that you will check the transaction and you will approve it.)
2) The buyer pays the online service company
3) The seller is then notified to ship the item to the buyer (in my case the bike is in the online service and they after you will make the payment will shipp the bike to you)
4) The buyer receives and inspects the item, and agrees or refuses the item
5) The seller is paid by the company, if the buyers agrees to buy the item after inspecting it.

This way you can inspect the motorcycle before actually purchasing it. If you are not 100% satisfied with the motorcycle, you will inform the company and they will send you back your money. I cannot be paid until you are agree with the bike.
You can test the motorcycle in any way you want for 5 days, and if you are not satisfied with it, you will inform the company and they will inform me, and i will send the transport company to pick up the motorcycle from you.
I am sure that once you will get on this motorcycle you will fell in love with it.

The system i proposed is easy, fast and reliable.

This is the website of the company that will handle our deal.
http://www.Online-Comercio.com/

You can see the FAQ here http://www.Online-Comercio.com/?actionfiltered=faq

Like i have told you I all-ready sent them the bike and all the bike documents for inspection. They will also provide a legal frame to our deal.

Please e-mail me all your questions or concerns.

PS: I will pay all the company fees and you will pay only the price of the bike.
Have a nice day, Respekt.

Anders <xxx@home.se> schrieb:

Hi again,

All sounds good.

How and when can i come to see your bike?

Regards

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> Från: reto gunther <reto_gunther@yahoo.de>
> Till: xxx@home.se
> Rubrik: RE:Yamaha YZF R1
> Datum: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:47:13 +0200 (CEST)

Hi,
I'm very glad that you like my bike and I can only say that you have good taste about bikes! I am the first owner of the bike. This bike was never crushed, droped or raced,no scrathches and also it has a clean title. I took care of it like it was my own baby and now is in the same condition as it was when I bought it! The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no hidden defects, kept in my own garage It's fun and robust to drive it.
The bike is in perfect condition, with no scratches on it, no dammage, it has originals km on it.The bike is german bike with german documents. This bike has never been accidented.The bike have all papers and recipts that you needs to register it into your name, have the title, 2 keys, owner manual, service book, c.o.c papers
If you are really interested, we can work out something.
Kindly regards and have a nice day

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Hello,
Dear Ms.Anders,
I am sorry but I can't meet with you because the bike is already registerd at the shipping company and if I take ir back I will pay the shipping costs again.I`m a business man and i don`t have time to meet you and that`s why i registered the bike at the shipping company.And i have another problem: I work a lot with this company, i have a contract signed with this company and i must respect it! I have a safe method to propose you that will protect both of us in this deal.The shipping and insurance taxes will be covered by me.You pay only the price of the bike! The bike is in perfect shape. No accidents, no dents, no scratches, no cracks, no damage.Kept inside. It is in showroom condition.The bike is ready for shipping at the shipping company.To recive it you must pay the money for the bike to the shipping company.After the payment is checked and if everything is OK the bike will be shipped towards you.You will recive the bike right at your home address.The shipping time depends on the distance to your country.When you will recive the bike you will have up to 10 days to inspect it at the nereast dealer and to go with the papers at the local authorities and see if there is trouble registering the bike in your country.If everything is OK and you agree to keep it the shipping company will give me the money and the transaction will be completed.If you are not satisfied you must announce the shipping company before the end of the inspection period and if there is no solution to the problems the bike will be shipped back to me by the same method in wich it was shipped to you and the shipping company will return you the money.This service offer protection for both buyer and seller.
I bought a car (BMW 520 D Touring) with this service and I was very satisfied.
For more information please check www.world-cargos-transport.com wich is the shipping companie's website.
If you agree to make the deal this way please tell me ( your name and address) so i can contact the company to start the deal.
The pictures is attach files.
Email me your response soon!
Thank you and best regards!
Peter

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Hello,
The bike is in excelent condition without any damages or scratches and was never been involved in an accident, laid down or raced. The price is so low because I need to sell it right away for personal reasons.
The bike is located in United Kingdom (but it is road registered in Germany and have german papers) in this moment, because I am here with some bussieness for a while.
This is not a problem because I can ship you the bike and I will pay the shipping fees and insurance.
For make this deal 100% safe for both of us, I preffer to use an safe exchange shipping company, because this is the best way to close a internet deal.
Please note that by using an safe exchange shipping company, I will not have access to the money, until you will see and test the bike for 5 days.
I hope that you are agree too with this.
I will wait for your reply.
My best regards




Edit: Såg först i efterhand att tråden skapades redan feb/mars (fin bump), så Grrrooov behöver inte bry sig om mina kommentarer men jag låter inlägget stå kvar iaf, kanske hjälper det någon annan...